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	<title>Comments on: Trying to Understand the Impact of an Open Adoption for an Adoptee</title>
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		<title>By: arteeee</title>
		<link>http://adoptee.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/trying-to-understand-the-impact-of-an-op/comment-page-1#comment-702</link>
		<dc:creator>arteeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comment from arteeee----I have been thru this serching for many years, and gave up because of locked doors at each step of the way,I think that with all the renewed interest there is maybe a chance to find my bio siblings,I am quite confident that my birth mother and father are passed on.I sure hope that things will turn out AOK for you---arteeee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comment from arteeee&#8212;-I have been thru this serching for many years, and gave up because of locked doors at each step of the way,I think that with all the renewed interest there is maybe a chance to find my bio siblings,I am quite confident that my birth mother and father are passed on.I sure hope that things will turn out AOK for you&#8212;arteeee</p>
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		<title>By: glennsimpson</title>
		<link>http://adoptee.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/trying-to-understand-the-impact-of-an-op/comment-page-1#comment-701</link>
		<dc:creator>glennsimpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 21:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only speak as someone who was in a closed adoption.  I grew up knowing I was adopted, had a mild curiosity about my birthparents, but was utterly satisfied with my adoptive parents.  I had some basic information about hair color, eye color, number of siblings my parents had, interests, things like that, but nothing that would allow me to find them - which I was fine with. When I grew older, I decided that while I wasn&#039;t interested in locating my birthparents, I was willing to let them find me.  Thanks to adoptionregistry.com, my half-sister was able to find me, and everyone is getting along fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, while growing up adopted was in no way traumatic, it also wasn&#039;t a constant part of my life.  There weren&#039;t any ongoing reminders of it, so I was able to enjoy having a &quot;normal&quot; life.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the OP mentioned, I suppose &quot;open&quot; can mean a lot of thigns.  I suppose that if there was some document somewhere that I couldn&#039;t access until I was 21 that contained the identification of my birthmother and birth father, that would have been nice to have, so that I could make contact when the time came.  Also, I think all adoptees should be provided with both the ethnic history and more importantly the family medical history of their birthparents, whenever possible.  I needed to know that there was a history of heart disease on my father&#039;s side.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the other end of the spectrum would be where the birth parent(s) are an ongoing part of the person&#039;s life.  For me, I am glad that wasn&#039;t the case, because I would not have welcomed the &quot;oddness&quot; of that.  I was able to enjoy the fact that I was adopted for what it needed to be - a conversation item, but not much else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only speak as someone who was in a closed adoption.  I grew up knowing I was adopted, had a mild curiosity about my birthparents, but was utterly satisfied with my adoptive parents.  I had some basic information about hair color, eye color, number of siblings my parents had, interests, things like that, but nothing that would allow me to find them &#8211; which I was fine with. When I grew older, I decided that while I wasn&#8217;t interested in locating my birthparents, I was willing to let them find me.  Thanks to adoptionregistry.com, my half-sister was able to find me, and everyone is getting along fine.</p>
<p>However, while growing up adopted was in no way traumatic, it also wasn&#8217;t a constant part of my life.  There weren&#8217;t any ongoing reminders of it, so I was able to enjoy having a &#8220;normal&#8221; life.</p>
<p>As the OP mentioned, I suppose &#8220;open&#8221; can mean a lot of thigns.  I suppose that if there was some document somewhere that I couldn&#8217;t access until I was 21 that contained the identification of my birthmother and birth father, that would have been nice to have, so that I could make contact when the time came.  Also, I think all adoptees should be provided with both the ethnic history and more importantly the family medical history of their birthparents, whenever possible.  I needed to know that there was a history of heart disease on my father&#8217;s side.</p>
<p>At the other end of the spectrum would be where the birth parent(s) are an ongoing part of the person&#8217;s life.  For me, I am glad that wasn&#8217;t the case, because I would not have welcomed the &#8220;oddness&#8221; of that.  I was able to enjoy the fact that I was adopted for what it needed to be &#8211; a conversation item, but not much else.</p>
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		<title>By: thomasina</title>
		<link>http://adoptee.adoptionblogs.com/weblogs/trying-to-understand-the-impact-of-an-op/comment-page-1#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>thomasina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in closed records, period. Nor, do I believe in closed adoptions. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am a birthmother who was absolutely forced by my parents (who were aided by the doctor and agency...I was 16) to relinquish and was reunited after 20 1/2 years. I am going to respond to your post from my own personal experience (which I realize doesn&#039;t constitute a scientific study).&lt;br /&gt;
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My situation has been extremely difficult. My bson&#039;s (P) aparents (G &amp; L) were not aware that I was coerced into the adoption; they didn&#039;t find out until after the reunion (which they supported). It threatened G (the a mom). Let me also add that G and L had four bio children after receiving P (thought they were infertile....Surprise!!)&lt;br /&gt;
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On my side, my pain, which hadn&#039;t left me for all those years, led me to make ill-thought out decisions. For example, when P pushed to meet and be part of my immediate family (which included a shaky marriage and three parented children), I gave in.  For a variety of reasons that it might be helpful for me to explain later, it was a disaster. &lt;br /&gt;
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Did I mention that P was married at reunion ? His obsession with me and the immediate family led him straight to the divorce court. After his divorce P lived in our house. More disaster.&lt;br /&gt;
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I had problems (for years) not understanding that reunion didn&#039;t mean that I had my baby back. My husband and I had house rules and P felt that he was an adult, he hadn&#039;t grown up with us telling him what to do and wasn&#039;t going to oblige, even though he was living with us. The rules he refused to follow involved our three parented children, particularly the oldest girl. She was nine years younger. When she started high school, he was in his mid twenties but wanted to hang out with her friends and participate in the school musical. He felt it was just fine to keep my daughter, N, and her friends out past their curfews, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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G and L and I could not ever be friends. Oh, we tried at first. However, G and her 4 bio kids were too nervous about me (Note: I don&#039;t blame her). On my side, I was, on the one hand, grateful that they had been loving and that they had kept P safe. On the other hand, they presented themselves to a Catholic agency as educated Catholics who agreed to raise him Catholic and provide him with an education. This is why they were granted the placement. When P was 7, they joined a cult (JW), which does not support education. He spends eight hours a day going door to door, to bus stations, laundromats, etc. proselytizing. He disdains education. He is also spoiled, selfish, self-centered. He uses people horribly. He doesn&#039;t respect others&#039; boundaries, e.g. he tried to convert my parented children to the cult. He would scream and yell at me for things like putting up a Christmas tree. It was awful.&lt;br /&gt;
No, there is no being friends with G and L (who are now divorced, BTW). My resentment level is quite high. They didn&#039;t do what they promised to do. I can see, too, that despite what the agency, etc. said about how much better off he would be with two parents, etc.; the fact is, he is not better off than he would have been with me. My parented kids are educated, considerate, generous, successful people. &lt;br /&gt;
I guess my point in all of this is to say that open adoption would have worked better for us, given the coercion, if we had had it all along (However, I would still have felt extremely betrayed by the cult thing).&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know what the answer is for people like us. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in closed records, period. Nor, do I believe in closed adoptions. </p>
<p>I am a birthmother who was absolutely forced by my parents (who were aided by the doctor and agency&#8230;I was 16) to relinquish and was reunited after 20 1/2 years. I am going to respond to your post from my own personal experience (which I realize doesn&#8217;t constitute a scientific study).</p>
<p>My situation has been extremely difficult. My bson&#8217;s (P) aparents (G &amp; L) were not aware that I was coerced into the adoption; they didn&#8217;t find out until after the reunion (which they supported). It threatened G (the a mom). Let me also add that G and L had four bio children after receiving P (thought they were infertile&#8230;.Surprise!!)</p>
<p>On my side, my pain, which hadn&#8217;t left me for all those years, led me to make ill-thought out decisions. For example, when P pushed to meet and be part of my immediate family (which included a shaky marriage and three parented children), I gave in.  For a variety of reasons that it might be helpful for me to explain later, it was a disaster. </p>
<p>Did I mention that P was married at reunion ? His obsession with me and the immediate family led him straight to the divorce court. After his divorce P lived in our house. More disaster.</p>
<p>I had problems (for years) not understanding that reunion didn&#8217;t mean that I had my baby back. My husband and I had house rules and P felt that he was an adult, he hadn&#8217;t grown up with us telling him what to do and wasn&#8217;t going to oblige, even though he was living with us. The rules he refused to follow involved our three parented children, particularly the oldest girl. She was nine years younger. When she started high school, he was in his mid twenties but wanted to hang out with her friends and participate in the school musical. He felt it was just fine to keep my daughter, N, and her friends out past their curfews, etc.</p>
<p>G and L and I could not ever be friends. Oh, we tried at first. However, G and her 4 bio kids were too nervous about me (Note: I don&#8217;t blame her). On my side, I was, on the one hand, grateful that they had been loving and that they had kept P safe. On the other hand, they presented themselves to a Catholic agency as educated Catholics who agreed to raise him Catholic and provide him with an education. This is why they were granted the placement. When P was 7, they joined a cult (JW), which does not support education. He spends eight hours a day going door to door, to bus stations, laundromats, etc. proselytizing. He disdains education. He is also spoiled, selfish, self-centered. He uses people horribly. He doesn&#8217;t respect others&#8217; boundaries, e.g. he tried to convert my parented children to the cult. He would scream and yell at me for things like putting up a Christmas tree. It was awful.<br />
No, there is no being friends with G and L (who are now divorced, BTW). My resentment level is quite high. They didn&#8217;t do what they promised to do. I can see, too, that despite what the agency, etc. said about how much better off he would be with two parents, etc.; the fact is, he is not better off than he would have been with me. My parented kids are educated, considerate, generous, successful people. <br />
I guess my point in all of this is to say that open adoption would have worked better for us, given the coercion, if we had had it all along (However, I would still have felt extremely betrayed by the cult thing).<br />
I don&#8217;t know what the answer is for people like us. </p>
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